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EVcast #383: Go Zap Lightning!

posted by Bo Bennett, Group AdministratorTuesday, July 20th 2010 @ 5:03 PM (2 ratings)    post viewed 2569 times

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[48:45] Join Bo on another solo journey as he give you updates and unique insights to this week's EV news.

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Paul Cummings
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PaulCummings said on Wednesday, July 21st 2010 @ 1:32 AM:

20th High School Reunion for Bo!  Woo-hoo!  I remember my 30th- it was fun;-)  Yikes!  3 more years until our 40th!  My daughers are right- I AM getting old:-(

I agree Bo- you will need MPG, MPKw and total range on all electric.  This is simple enough for buyers to digest and weigh what they think is important- I don't think you need a number to represent all three- it would be worse than trying to figure out the Quarterback Rating system!

Well- Toyota and now Honda are going to jump into the EV field- very good!  Let's hope this is not a repeat of the Prius, where Toyota responded to US research, and when US auto makers dropped their programs, the Prius left them in the proverbial dust.

Battery costs!  It has been, and still is, the bug in the soup.  That is the secondary good news of Toyota and Honda joining the party- the more EVs made, the quicker battery costs will come down to something more palatable, even without an Eestor-like jump in energy storage (I am still confident however, that Eestor will bring their product to fruition, even if it is not until next year or the year after).

Zap Alias dance!  Oww!  Oh, the humanity!  Make it stop!

Have a good trip to California next week- I really look forward to y'all's show at PlugIn 2010.  I hope y'all can rope Chelsea into one of the them- I miss her balanced, sanguine take on EVdom from Nikki's show.

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Alex Campbell
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a guest said on Thursday, July 22nd 2010 @ 10:35 AM:

Go Alias, Go ZAP Alias! Have to agree with Andrew, dissappointed about the lack of coverage of the 100 MPGe+ X PRIZE Finals. GM could have checked their Volt numbers out here, along with the rest of the auto industry. Kudos to Ford at least for putting a Focus hybrid pace car out here. The XPRIZE website has live telemetry readings from the efficiency testing today along with a U stream video feed.

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Tom Lewis
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lewis3000us said on Saturday, July 24th 2010 @ 1:00 AM:

About the issue of how to rate the efficiency of EVs, I say Wh/mile (or mile/Wh) is the way to go and to not worry about deriving any equivalency.  The reason is that there are just too many assumptions needed for the additional conversion and so the benefit of having an equivalent figure is marginal compared to the risk that the assumptions will be inaccurate.  After all, the point is really to compare one EV to another.  Sure, it is handy to get a cost per mile figure to compare to ICE vehicles, but that is only to illustrate to the uninitiated that EVs are economical.  After that, what maters is the Wh/mile or mile/Wh.  I brought this up a few years ago: http://www.evcast.com/members/evcast/comm/READ/00000041/Cost-per-Mile-vs-Wh-per-Mile.html

In the case of E-REVs like the Volt, the EPA should standardize on reporting one figure (like mile/Wh) for the EV operation, and another figure (MPG) for the gas operation.  While the distance of pure EV operation is hardly irreverent, I am not sure it is imperative for the EPA to require manufacturers of E-REVs to report it out when the efficiency is specified.  Any thoughts?

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